E104: FTX collapse with Coinbase CEO Brian Armstrong + election results, macro update & more

Sat, 12 Nov 2022 10:31:00 +0000

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David Sacks Wrong 00:16:01 politics

In the upcoming 2022 Georgia Senate runoff election (Warnock vs. Walker), Republicans will lose the runoff if Donald Trump continues his post‑2020-election style 'antics' and public behavior through the period leading up to the runoff.

“I think we're going to lose the Georgia runoff again if Trump continues with these antics.” View on YouTube
Explanation

Republican Herschel Walker lost the December 2022 Georgia Senate runoff to Democrat Raphael Warnock, but Trump's continued 'antics' were one of several factors cited for the loss rather than a clean test of this conditional; regardless, the underlying prediction of a Republican loss was correct.

Unknown H Unvalidated attribution: low 00:28:35 markets

Following the November 2022 collapse of FTX, additional crypto firms will experience financial distress or failure due to contagion effects (e.g., exposure to FTX/Alameda or leveraged crypto portfolios), beyond those already known at the time of this recording.

“Yeah. So I do think there is some contagion risk here.” View on YouTube
Chamath Palihapitiya Right 00:53:20 governmentventuremarkets

If U.S. regulators (SEC and DOJ) seriously pursue the FTT/FTX case, they will subsequently open investigations into other crypto tokens and token sales, including those involving prominent Silicon Valley venture firms, over the following few years.

“if the SEC is really and the DOJ is really going to take this FTT token issue seriously, and what happened to FTX, they're going to start to look at a bunch of other tokens and token sales, and you're going to end up looking at some very well-known venture firms inside of Silicon Valley.” View on YouTube
Explanation

In the years following FTX's collapse, the SEC and DOJ did expand scrutiny of other crypto tokens and venture-backed token sales, including firms with Silicon Valley venture backing.

Jason Calacanis Right 00:53:44 venturemarkets

The FTX/FTT collapse in late 2022 will mark a structural turning point that leads to a major reduction in speculative venture-backed token issuance going forward.

“I have a feeling that this is going to be the turning point in all of that token.” View on YouTube
Explanation

The FTX collapse did mark a major turning point that significantly reduced speculative venture-backed token issuance in the years that followed.

Jason Calacanis Partly Right 00:58:31 venturemarketsgovernment

Over the next few years, venture capital will largely stop investing directly in tradable tokens and will instead focus on equity in companies, while existing and new tokens will become subject to much heavier regulation.

“I think venture investing in the tokens is going to end. Investing in the corporation is going to begin. And any of the tokens are going to be super regulated.” View on YouTube
Explanation

Venture investment did shift more toward equity in AI and crypto infrastructure companies after FTX, and token issuance faced much heavier regulatory scrutiny, though direct token investing did not fully end and rebounded somewhat by 2024-2025.

Chamath Palihapitiya Partly Right 01:02:21 politicsgovernmentmarkets

Because of the FTX scandal, U.S. policy momentum toward broadening ordinary investors’ access to private/crypto markets via new accreditation paths will be delayed by roughly a decade or longer.

“The problem is, when you have guys like this, it sets that desire back by a decade, if not more.” View on YouTube
Explanation

Efforts to expand retail access to private markets did slow after FTX, but by 2025 the SEC and industry had resumed pushing new retail-access vehicles (e.g., tokenized private equity funds), suggesting less than a full decade-long delay.

Chamath Palihapitiya Right 01:03:11 governmentmarkets

In response to the FTX collapse, top-level U.S. policymakers and regulators will move quickly (within months) to impose or push for much stricter oversight and enforcement actions in the crypto sector.

“this is going to go to the utmost level and it's going to have the most scrutiny, and they're going to act really quickly. It is going to.” View on YouTube
Explanation

US regulators moved relatively quickly after the FTX collapse to pursue enforcement actions and push for stricter crypto oversight in the following months.

Chamath Palihapitiya Partly Right 01:07:40 marketseconomy

From late 2022, macro conditions (disinflation, policy gridlock, China reopening, progress in Ukraine, etc.) create upside for risk assets over the subsequent 6–9 months relative to what markets were then pricing in.

“these seven things are macro level things that affect everybody. And I think if you take them together, what it says is that, wow, there's there's the potential for a lot of great positive developments over the next 6 or 9 months. And I don't think that that was adequately priced in the market.” View on YouTube
Explanation

Markets did rally significantly in the following 6-9 months (early 2023 saw a strong rebound), though this was driven more by AI enthusiasm and disinflation than the specific macro factors listed.

Jason Calacanis Right 01:12:17 marketseconomy

From late 2022, macro and market conditions will remain choppy for roughly 2–4 more quarters (through about late 2023) before clear improvement.

“I think consensus we have here is, is that we're in the end game now, maybe, what, two quarters, three quarters, four quarters of choppiness?” View on YouTube
Explanation

Markets remained choppy through much of 2023 before showing clearer improvement into 2024, roughly matching the predicted several-quarter timeframe.

Chamath Palihapitiya Partly Right 01:12:27 ventureeconomy

Startup funding conditions will remain difficult enough that companies should assume they will need sufficient cash runway to survive without new financing until at least Q1 2025.

“I've been telling all of our startups that you need to plan to have money through the first quarter of 2025. You must.” View on YouTube
Explanation

Startup funding conditions remained difficult through 2023-2024, and many companies did extend runway planning, though conditions began improving meaningfully before Q1 2025 for AI-focused startups specifically.

Chamath Palihapitiya Wrong 01:12:41 economy

From November 2022, U.S. inflation will experience a renewed uptick within about six months, prompting the Federal Reserve to raise the federal funds rate to roughly 5.5% and then hold it near that level until around mid-2024.

“Sharpe's think that inflation will come back at some point in the next six months. That will keep the Fed's foot on the gas. Maybe it's 2 or 3 more 50 basis point hikes. The point is Jason, you could be at five and a half. Again we said this last week we're going to get to a point that's probably higher than what people expect. That's probably around five and a half. And we'll stay there longer than people want. That's probably through the middle part of 24.” View on YouTube
Explanation

The Fed did not raise rates to 5.5% and hold through mid-2024; it paused hikes around 5.25-5.5% in mid-2023 and began cutting in September 2024, roughly matching the peak level but not the extended hold through mid-2024.

Chamath Palihapitiya Partly Right 01:13:55 marketsventureeconomy

Public equity markets, particularly in tech/growth, are likely to begin a sustained rebound in the second half of 2024, with venture investors’ deployment sentiment improving only after roughly six months of demonstrably better macro and market data.

“I think the market can start to rebound in the second half of 24, but if you're a company, you need to balance and plan for the first quarter of 25 because, you know, again, most venture investors are going to want to see six months of data on the ground that things are better before their sentiment changes.” View on YouTube
Explanation

Tech and growth equities did see a strong rebound extending through 2024, particularly AI-related names, generally consistent though the rebound began earlier than the second half of 2024 specifically.

Chamath Palihapitiya Partly Right 01:14:45 ventureeconomy

Of the roughly $1 trillion invested in venture capital from 2018 through 2022, approximately $500 billion from those vintages—and around $600–700 billion including older vintages—will ultimately be lost (i.e., not returned to investors) as the cycle plays out.

“what it basically tells you is about $500 billion of that trillion from 1819, 20, 21 and 22 is going to be destroyed.... we're talking about a 600 or $700 billion destruction of paid in capital.” View on YouTube
Explanation

Significant venture capital losses from 2018-2022 vintages have been widely reported and estimated in the hundreds of billions of dollars, broadly consistent with the prediction's magnitude, though precise loss figures remain difficult to independently verify.